Ep154: Faith and Science - Dr Jonathan Lunine, Shinzen Young, & Chelsey Fasano

Dr Jonathan Lunine, distinguished American planetary scientist and physicist, joins the ongoing discussion with Shinzen Young and Chelsey Fasano.

Available on Youtube, iTunes, SoundCloud & Spotify – search ‘Guru Viking Podcast’.

Dr Lunine is the David C. Duncan Professor in the Physical Sciences and Chair of the Department of Astronomy at Cornell University. Dr Lunine has published over 380 research papers and is at the forefront of research into planet formation, evolution, and habitability.

Dr Lunine’s work includes the Cassini mission to Saturn, the James Webb Space Telescope, and the Juno Mission to Jupiter. Dr Lunine is a member of the National Academy of Sciences and has participated in and chaired advisory and strategic planning committees for the Academy and for NASA.

In this episode, the group question the compatibility of faith and science, explore the writings of St Thomas Aquinas and the radical theology of T.S Eliot, and consider the controversial theories of Sir Roger Penrose.

Dr Lunine also discusses his research into life on other planets, reveals the possibility of cyanide-based life, and speculates about the role of God in the universe of the Big Bang.


Topics include:

00:00 - Intro 
01:23 - Faith and Reason
04:42 - How big is life?
07:57 - Physics & God
08:57 - Buddhist exceptionalism
09:33 - Are science and faith compatible? 
13:59 - The Society of Catholic Scientists 
15:17 - Georges Lemaître and the Big Bang 
16:03 - Dr Lunine’s search for life on other planets and moons
17:36 - Titan’s methane seas and hydrogen bonding mechanisms 
20:03 - Cyanide-based life and information molecules 
28:52 - Future missions to Titan 
30:57 - Definition of a habitable zone
33:20 - Detecting water on extra-solar planets 
37:04 - How big is life and where is information stored?
43:55 - Is life on Earth the ultimate pinnacle of self-organisation?
45:42 - Meta-life and Sir Roger Penrose 
48:04 - The radical theology of T.S Eliot
50:24 - Aquinas on diversity as an expression of order 
52:14 - Time and timelessness 
55:44 - God as the Infinite and eternal foundation of all reality 
56:46 - Chaos and Dr Sanguinetti 


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