Ep358: Casebook of a Spirit Lawyer - Mary Shutan

Mary Shutan is an author, occultist, and spiritual teacher. 

Available on Youtube, iTunes, SoundCloud & Spotify – search ‘Guru Viking Podcast’.

Mary opens her casebook as a spirit lawyer, working on behalf of her clients with occult techniques to solve all manner of natural and supernatural problems.

Mary recounts stories of jealous wizards, astral encounters, and the dark side of shamanism.

Mary also reveals the two ways in which curses operate, warns about the power of blood magic, and explores the connection between trauma and soul retrieval.


00:00 - Intro

00:39 - What is a spirit lawyer?

05:46 - How Mary works with clients

09:16 - Case study: I am blocked in my spiritual seeking

12:50 - Case study: I keep getting angry at work

15:14 - How to meet people where they are

18:28 - A shift in Mary’s method

20:30 - Working with spirits

23:07 - Initiations and navigating the Underworld

27:08 - Dark side of shamanism

30:01 - 2 ways in which curses work

34:23 - Easy-access occult systems

36:44 - Rescuing black magic practitioners 

38:20 - Magick can be addictive 

40:27 - Difficulty letting go of magick

41:44 - How to offset karmic debts 

45:19 - Language magick

47:16 - The exorcism of Mattias Daly 

49:39 - How common is genuine spirit oppression?

55:13- Blood magick

57:29 - Dangers to the spirit lawyer

01:00:41 - Power and jealous wizards

01:02:25 - Meeting powerful practitioners

01:04:14 - Commonalities among systems

01:06:11 - Meeting people in the astral realm

01:07:08 - Mary’s shamanic techniques

01:08:45 - Journeying and discernment

01:10:37 - Trauma and soul retrieval 

01:13:26 - Psychedelic casualties

01:14:25 - Mentoring others

01:17:32 - Alienation from the natural world

01:19:42 - Mary on today’s world

01:22:18 - Healing, shadow work, and creativity

01:23:54 - Mary’s advice for others


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Music ‘Deva Dasi’ by Steve James

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