Ep372: Hermitix - James Ellis

James Ellis is an independent researcher; writer; host of the Hermitix podcast; and founder of the online magick school, the Hermitage. 

Available on Youtube, iTunes, SoundCloud & Spotify – search ‘Guru Viking Podcast’.

James traces his spiritual journey including new atheism, explorations in the occult, Gurdjieff work, conversion to and deconversion from Catholicism, and the founding of his online magick school, the Hermitage.

James offers his critique of magickal protection practices, recounts his experiences of summoning demons of the Goetia, and explains his approach to spiritual teaching.

James also describes his years of alcoholism, the complexities of British class culture, the awakening of his intellectual potential, his graduate studies in Continental Philosophy, why he did not enjoy reading Homer’s Odyssey, and the pros and cons of talking in stories. 


00:00 - Intro

01:33 - James on Homer’s Odyssey and favourite fiction

07:02 - Church of England upbringing

09:26 - A class mutt

12:22 - Working class lessons

15:10 - Winnie the Pooh vs the Moomins 

16:13 - Chronic underachieving at school

22:36 - Functional alcoholism from 14-22 years old

26:53 - Discovering a passion for reading

30:50 - James’ reading regime

32:36 - Finding time for reading

35:41 - School is an engine of trauma

39:45 - University degrees in Fine Art and Continental Philosophy

40:44 - A profound experience at 22 years old

45:08 - Why Continental Philosophy?

48:19 - Awakening intellectual potential 

50:52 - Writing from the age of 16

53:53 - Beginnings of spiritual seeking & Alan Watts

56:04 - New Atheism, Chaos Magick, & the Occult

59:18 - Franz Bardon & Gurdjieff

01:03:34 - Franz Bardon and solo practice

01:07:43 - Discipline and building mind power

01:09:45 - Motives for occult involvement

01:12:30 - Crowley and HGA

01:15:47 - Becoming a Catholic

01:18:12 - Seeking falls away 

01:23:40 - James draws a line in the interview

01:26:17 - Talking properly vs telling stories

01:28:26 - How to talk properly

01:30:04 - Energetic changes in the chest

01:34:46 - Free flowing being

01:36:56 - James asks for Steve’s reaction

01:40:37 - De-converting from Catholicism 

01:46:17 - Catholic formation

01:48:28 - Trying to share doubts with Catholics

01:50:09 - A small wave of de-converts 

01:51:44 - Why the recent vogue of conversion to traditional Christianity

01:52:55 - Can the modern man return to religion?

01:57:04 - Being a child of Winter

02:00:04 - Magick without seeking

02:00:57 - James’ magickal school, the Hermitage

02:09:15 - James on the experience of evil

02:14:27 - Summoning a demon of the Goetia

02:16:32 - Critique of magickal protection

02:20:17 - Why James still teaches banishing and protection magick 

02:22:43 - Why James decided not to pursue a PhD

02:25:39 - Alan Chapman, John Michael Greer, and mentors

02:32:04 - Spiritual teaching and so what?


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Music ‘Deva Dasi’ by Steve James.

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