Ep378: Entering the Brahma Viharas - Leigh Brasington

Leigh Brasington is a Buddhist meditation teacher and author of Right Concentration, A Practical Guide to the Jhanas.

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Leigh discusses his new book Love, Compassion, Joy, Equanimity: The Brahma Viharas – Suttas, Stories, Practices, Hidden Gems in which he delves into the Pali canon of Buddhist scripture to shed new light on how to understand and practice these potent meditations.

Leigh gives detailed descriptions of each of the four brahma viharas. He draws from his decades of teaching experience, as well as scriptural and commentarial literature, to offer his best advice for how to utilise these methods in meditation practice.

Leigh reveals how far the brahma viharas can take you towards enlightenment, reflects on the trivialisation of love in today’s culture, and I challenge Leigh to retire what I describe as a tired cliché of Western Buddhist pedagogy.


00:00 - Intro 

01:05 - Why Leigh wrote the book

05:50 - How far towards enlightenment can brahma vihara practice take you?

08:54 - Entering the jhanas with the brahma vhiaras 

11:48 - Defining “brahma vihara”

13:41 - Paucity of sutta evidence to link the four attitudes with the term “brahma vihara”

14:12 - The Buddha did not invent the brahma viharas

16:43 - Using phrases is a much later development

18:14 - The pervading practice

19:51 - Ayya Khema’s metta practice method

22:32 - Steve’s brahma vihara story

25:46 - Real or fake?

28:19 - Brahma vihara as antidote practice

32:25 - Steve challenges Leigh on mudita claims

37:17 - Suttas do not teach mudita as appreciative joy

37:44 - Leigh’s disappointment in the English language

39:25 - How to practice appreciative joy

40:43 - Can we retire the cliche?

42:30 - Does the West lack the concept of appreciative joy?

44:13 - Metta, unconditional love

47:27 - Problems with “unconditional love”

47:54 - Trivialisation of love

50:34 - Attachment vs love

53:07 - How to practice metta in daily life

56:43 - How metta reduces personal suffering

59:17 - Less thinking, more loving

01:03:25 - Late night reading and being a night owl

01:04:15 - Karuna, compassion and kindness

01:07:42 - Compassion is active

01:10:40 - Do gooders and dumb compassion

01:14:52 - Compassion burnout

01:20:01 - Does compassion need results?

01:21:16 - Ambiguity of sickness 

01:22:56 - Upekkha, equanimity

01:25:28 - Leigh’s stories of equanimity

01:32:54 - Equanimity vs apathy

01:36:14 - States, traits, and the equanimity range

01:39:12 - Antidote to freak out

01:43:32 - Bias and practicing equanimity with political enemies

01:45:47 - Exchanging self and other and reducing self clinging

01:49:10 - Will brahma vihara lead you to enlightenment?

01:54:17 - Leigh’s mahasiddha story

01:55:49 - The beauty of the metta sutta

01:57:40 - Leigh reads the metta sutta


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