Ep384: Edgy Gurus & Rude Dharma - Samuel Bercholz

Samuel Bercholz is a senior teacher in the Nyingma and Kagyu lineages of Tibetan Buddhism, founder of Shambala publications, and author of Rude Awakenings:An Unconventional Guide to the Buddhist Path.

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Sam reflects on the controversial behaviour of his guru, Tibetan Buddhist teacher Chogyam Trungpa; explores the uneasy relationship between enlightenment and morality; and reports Thinley Norbu Rinpoche’s enthusiasm for cleaning and toilet hygiene.

Sam explains why he believes that the ground of meditation is hopelessness, shares his own past skepticism about Buddhist doctrines of awakening, and discusses the pros and cons of publicising one’s spiritual attainments.

Sam also recounts times when his gurus demonstrated omniscience and other siddhi powers, muses about a special sense of humour that comes with spiritual realisation, and reveals the centrality of working with spirits and other beings in Indo-Tibetan Tantra.


00:00 - Intro

01:11 - High octane gurus

02:33 - Guru trends, edgy vs nice 

04:07 - Dzogchen madness

05:45 - Things happen

07:43 - How lies become truth

10:04 - Claiming enlightenment

13:41 - Why meditate? 

18:29 - Meditation and hopelessness 

20:20 - Skepticism about the path

24:08 - Realising hopelessness 

25:23 - From depression to liberation

26:18 - The middle way

29:09 - No problem amidst problems

32:29 - No more working hard

35:27 - Guru relationship vs personal practice

38:09 - Chod practice

39:46 - Ngondro, the preliminary practices

40:45 - Is more practice better?

44:13 - The mind of the 16th Karmapa

45:02 - Enlightened humour

47:46 - The cosmic joke

49:32 - Concepts about enlightenment

51:56 - Thiney Norbu Rinpoche’s fanaticism about cleaning and toilet practice

53:38 - Enlightenment vs moral development

55:20 - The ālaya, all-ground

55:59 - Wrathful and peaceful deities

59:04 - Spiritual bliss

01:00:32 - Esoteric and drop the scientific method

01:01:11 - Morality and gurus

01:03:30 - Vinaya is based on human error

01:05:00 - Vajrayana morality

01:06:06 - Why  people hate Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche

01:09:02 - The Merwin incident

01:09:35 - Trungpa slept with his students

01:11:59 - Does Trungpa’s bad reputation bother Sam?

01:14:20 - Why Sam wrote Rude Awakenings

01:15:38 - Building an enlightened society

01:16:39 - Why Trungpa’s enlightened society crumbled

01:17:36 - Guided Tour of Hell

01:18:54 - Guru omniscience and psychic powers

01:23:06 - Thinley Norbu Rinpoche’s omniscience

01:25:53 - ESP and entity contact in Tantra

01:28:37 - Why Buddhist Tantra is failing

01:29:36 - Working with spirits

01:32:09 - Emphasising the Indo-Tibetan link

01:33:16 - Narpoa, Tilopa, and Padmasambhava


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